Star Wars Grandpa Awakens

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The family and I finally went to the new Star Wars movie.  I’m probably the only one that actually knows the original story to some extent although I was really a Star Trek fan.  Granted my son is more up on the clone wars though.  But I did go to see the original back in the day and liked it.

So, how does the latest version stand up?

Well first off it’s a good movie.  Not great, but good.  If you feel like seeing a movie on a Saturday or Sunday, when you have nothing planned, this movie fits the bill.  But then, that’s exactly what the first one did.  That’s why it was fun. So The Force Awakens, is fine as far as that goes.

There were a couple of questions we all had when it was all said and done.

———————-Spoilers ahead—————————

So, how is it possible that the son of Han Solo and Princess (General) Leia, when sent to learn the ways of the Jedi by Luke Skywalker, turn to the dark side? Seriously folks that just doesn’t seem likely.  Were Han and Leia that bad as parents?  Was Luke, the great Jedi, so bad a teacher?

The next question my son had was, why didn’t anyone seem to care much with the republic was destroyed?  It’s was like, ” oh that sucks”, “well anyway what’s for lunch”?

The movie also seemed to assume you knew the whole backstory, which is fine I guess, but if this was your first Star Wars movie (Wife), then it was nothing but an action movie with little plot.

One more thing, why did Kylo Ren wear a mask that he apparently didn’t need for anything?  Just to look evil, to look like Darth?  While the mask and voice was kind of cool, it didn’t really make any sense.  Oh, and he was kind of a whiny ass. Just saying.

Still we enjoyed it and in short order I’ll probably remember very little of it.

Now the Wrath of Khan…I’ll never forget.  🙂

 

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6 Responses to “Star Wars Grandpa Awakens”

  1. ymarsakar Says:

    (Collected comments from last year)

    I watched some data and analyzed the SW movie 7. It’s basically JJ Abram’s reverse setup, compared to George Lucas. Completely different methodology.

    Unlike 1-2, I actually understood the plot and heard most of the English sentences.

    People were commenting on Star Wars vs George Lucas before, so JJ Abram’s directorship is a good comparison tool. I heard the Clone Wars episodic tv animated series is also popular, which Lucas didn’t touch except as an Executive Producer in charge of how many episodes are funded. The writer and director were other people, as well as the producer.

    “One of my young male relatives wept after it was over, out of disappointment with it. His hopes were very high, however, and there was some really slapdash work in places.”-Grim

    Sounds complicated. Given the number of years and negative feedback from 1-3 episodes movies of SW, I surmise that the emotions are a lot more complicated than disappointment.

    For me, I didn’t particularly invest anything into Star Wars. My standard for Hollywood and George Lucas’ Star Wars must be so low, that JJ Abrams would have had to deliberately sabotage his movie to go lower than my expectations. What he did produce was interesting, at least, and I can see the “fan service” so to speak, with the various plot backs. It really does feel like a sequel, or at least like what the Original movies 4-6 might have felt like to people who first watched it.

    12:03 AM
    Blogger Texan99 said…
    A friend my age, who’s more likely to react as I would, thought it wasn’t too bad, but she did think it was a little self-conscious or arch in places.

    9:58 AM
    Anonymous Ymar Sakar said…
    Movie 7, tried to encapsulate many emotions and scenes from New Hope, Empire Strikes Back, and the Last Jedi all in one. That kind of framework echo is intentional, but it does cut down on some of the originality and flow.

    The actors were also living in their own conscious fandom and had to try to keep it from jumping into their professional lives.

    They utilized European two handed longsword techniques. Which was a distinct visual departure, and the actors had physical swords, of a kind, to practice on stage with. A lot of props became physical, such as the Falcon, with the kind of up scale that wasn’t feasible back in the day.

    From what I’ve seen of the technical specs, the Tie Fighter original, was too small to house two man seats, especially with the model they presented on screen. They really reduced the number of ships on screen to the classic and signature symbols, Tie Fighter vs X Wing. The TIE bomber would have been better for the two man turret setup.

    Some of the plot arcs also seemed to have been missing, instead it revolved around the actor’s own pov which wasn’t necessarily the audience’s pov. This is in comparison with the wooden, no expression, syndrome of the 1-3 movies. The actors back then was starring at a blue or green room. Only the director could see the background and foreground CGI pics.

    P.S.

    From what I’ve researched, this movie is not part of the Expanded Universe, which the fans (fanatics) wrote up to entertain and supply the material for the unrelenting demand. That generally means the Solo family’s line has changed a little bit. What they plan to do with that, no idea. I haven’t read the books in the Expanded Universe either.

    But from other people’s comments, this was based on a “pivotal decision” at a certain point, which branched the universes apart, seemingly. They’ll get to that later in the sequels, I suppose.

    “Now the Wrath of Khan…I’ll never forget. :)”

    Speaking of ST.

    CBS/ P and MPAA probably as well, sued them on 28 of December something in 2015. You know, the expected reaction of the Hollywood monopoly to actors and consumers getting their supplies somewhere else.

  2. ymarsakar Says:

    “The next question my son had was, why didn’t anyone seem to care much with the republic was destroyed? It’s was like, ” oh that sucks”, “well anyway what’s for lunch”?

    They seemed to have wiped out some inhabited planets in one solar system. The Republic still has plenty more, so to speak.

    You’ll probably see something like the Super Star Destroyer and what’s left of the Sith and Empire’s naval forces do the rest. Well, they got to have something for the next plot movies.

    “So, how is it possible that the son of Han Solo and Princess (General) Leia, when sent to learn the ways of the Jedi by Luke Skywalker, turn to the dark side? Seriously folks that just doesn’t seem likely.”

    Actually, that seems very likely. Almost half the Sith came out of the Jedi. Meaning, without the Jedi, you might not see people fall to the Dark Side, at least not after they have developed force powers. In the Old Republic, there were some interesting stories about that, after the Sith became extinct as a species, that is.

    But I presume Skywalker will take the stage to explain how all that happened. It’s probably a redo of Lucas’ failure to explain Anakin’s fall.

    Ren’s probably emulating Darth Vader for personal reasons. You know, like how people dress up and act like movie stars or strip tease singers on those music videos. To fill the emptiness within.

  3. JB Says:

    “Actually, that seems very likely. Almost half the Sith came out of the Jedi. Meaning, without the Jedi, you might not see people fall to the Dark Side, at least not after they have developed force powers.

    True the Jedi could produce those on the dark side but I think Leia and Han would have to be pretty bad parents to not see the signs and Luke, sure as hell should see them. I don’t know the actual books so no idea what the contrived reasoning is but at some point you may just have to wipe this family out as they continually raise bad “force” leaders. 🙂

    Oh, and can’t they build a damn death star/planet that doesn’t have a single point weakness?

    It’s a fun movie but holes everywhere.

  4. ymarsakar Says:

    “I think Leia and Han would have to be pretty bad parents to not see the signs and Luke, sure as hell should see them.”

    I don’t think they visited their son after he was consigned to Luke, or rather the Jedi seem to attempt to emulate living in the mountains like a hermit type of retreats. But like I said, part of that is the mystery for episode 8, as it is setup.

    “but at some point you may just have to wipe this family out as they continually raise bad “force” leaders. ”

    That always been true of any Jedi family, however. It’s something Western authors probably stole from the East, the idea of the “favored” martial arts disciple betraying the Master, his mentor and guardian, and kill everybody at the School. It’s something of a stereotypical trope in Eastern martial arts dramas. The remaining cadre of students or disciples, then swear eternal vengeance on who killed their Master and fellows.

    The thing about the West is that they use the underlying tropes, but don’t know how to develop them since the culture is so alien to Western conceptions, including how “revenge is useless” and all that.

    Oh, and can’t they build a damn death star/planet that doesn’t have a single point weakness?

    Primitive planetbound species tend to think in terms of offense over any defense, relying on their supremacy of might to cower the other primitives into surrender. Me, personally, I would put my secret shipyards and doomsday strategic weapons inside a star, inside a blackhole, or hidden in some other dimension only reachable through a wormhole.

    Part of the problem with super weapons designed to impress, is that once you use them, it becomes very obvious where they come from and how to duplicate it. A real strategic weapon, a Weapon of Mass Deception, can be used thousands of times and can never be traced back to its origin point or point of origin.

  5. ymarsakar Says:

    Also, concerning the end of the last movie, for those reacting to spoilers, react now.

    They only needed to stop the fire sequence. What was blown up was seemingly the energy sink and or regular. If they had discharged the energy and regained security, then repaired the structure, they wouldn’t have had that overload issue. It’s a mark of top down “command” authority retardation and incompetence. Except they don’t even have the excuse of “following orders” there.

    Again, I keep in mind that Hollywood wrote the script, not military tacticians, strategists, students of the art of propaganda, H2H instructors, or the various other social circle of people I normally “listen to”.

  6. ymarsakar Says:

    Btw, in case critical point failure source wasn’t understood by other people, it is when somebody loads all their food and water on a single ship, in a convoy of 50 ships. All of them, so that a single torpedo or sabotage leak can get rid of all those supplies at once. Critical failure source.

    Weakest link in the chain.

    Sort of like having the only specialist on an A team that is vital for infiltrating and ex filtrating, get killed, because he had no backups. Then everyone is stuck where they are at, even though they can still finish the mission.

    Hollywood as a culture, really doesn’t think like that, JB. It’s cultural shock and alien meta ness there.

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