Afghanistan progress

NATO troops killed by Afghan security forces: Timeline of rogue attacks

Two NATO coalition troops were killed at a joint base in Zhari district in Kandahar on Thursday after two Afghan men, one of whom was apparently a soldier, turned their weapons against them.

Thursday’s shootings come less than a week after two NATO troops were shot and killed inside the Interior Ministry in Kabul. The Taliban took responsibility of the killings and said that the shooter was an insurgent infiltrator in the Afghans’ security forces. The incident prompted the top U.S. general in Afghanistan to recall all NATO personnel working in Afghan ministries in Kabul.

The shootings are the latest in a series of attacks by Afghan security forces — or militants disguised in their uniforms — against U.S. and other members of the coalition forces.

Last year, there were 566 coalition military fatalities in Afghanistan. This year, there have been more than 40 deaths so far.

Here are some of the major incidents since 2009 of attacks by Afghans wearing police or army uniforms against NATO forces.

Read the rest of the article for the timeline this year on Green on blue incidents.

Nothing to see here folks just move along….


10 thoughts on “Afghanistan progress

  1. Just me and the Dogs this weekend….Will do some BBQing in the backyard and of course a Few Cold Beers. Maybe break out a guitar and play some tunes….Should be a Relaxing Weekend…..
    Happy Fathers Day to all on JB’s Sanctuary…..


  2. 11th, after being away from home a lot this year I’m back home for good. This will be a nice Fathers day for me. No big plans just relaxing with the family. A little guitar playing sounds good.

  3. Worth noting that ANSF kill ANSF at three times the rate ANSF kill ISAF.

    A lot of this is a lack of discipline.

    If every ANSF enlisted recruit would get 13 weeks bootcamp like the Marines (instead of 6 weeks or 8 weeks) it would do a lot to help.

    Because the international community refuses to pay to increase the training cycle of the enlisted ANSF, at the very least there needs to be longer training cycles for NCOs and officers.

    Westpoint trains officers for 4 years, not 20 weeks like the ANSF do. This for officer cadets with very little human capital to begin with.

    Most ANA NCOs only get 4 weeks of specialized training. [In addition to the 8 weeks bootcamp all ANA enlisted get.] Remember we are talking about about NCOs that in many cases didn’t have a 1st grade education before bootcamp.

    When little effort is put into training, what do you expect? A lot of young teenage punks with guns who fight, wound and kill each other a lot. Many ANSF are high school punk bullies with guns that are prone to street fights.

    The stories you hear from the field . . . oh la la.

  4. I don’t expect much. That’s the point.

    I would say lots of effort has been put into training. Although I don’t necessarily agree with the type of training.

    With the mix of loyalties right now I’m surprised there isn’t more Green on Green and Green on Blue incidents.

  5. We don’t agree that a lot of effort has been put into training.

    Right now the two ANSF training commands [MG Patang’s and MG Karim’s] have a long term steady state budget of less than $1 billion per year, as proposed by President Obama. That isn’t a lot.

    Increasing that budget to $2 billion/yr from under $1 billion would transform everything. It would allow the ANSF to have 100,000 training seats.

    Specific ANSF embedded advisors and trainers have put in a lot of effort. There have been very few of those, to date.

    Compare the training the Pakistani Army provides its officers and NCOs with the training the Afghan National Army provides its officers and NCOs.

  6. Afghans do have a strong sense of nationalism. The ANA has a culture. Unfortunately that culture lacks discipline. 😦

    It is more a question of discipline and a strong officer/NCO corps than “loyalties” (by which I think you mean the ethnic diversity of the ANA.)

  7. I mean everything down to the tribal / village level. The loyalties are local and even then fleeting. It’s not really ethnic.

  8. Good comment JB.

    Sorry if the comments seemed a little harsh earlier.

    If you want a capable ANSF, then invest in their officers and NCOs the way the Pakistani Army does, or the Indian Army does. Until you do, don’t be surprised by ANSF quality problems.

    One reason the ANSF would benefit from training enlisted recruits for 13 weeks or longer instead of 8 weeks, is because that allows more time for unit bonding, for the ANA culture to grow, and for the tribal and village ties to be partly weeded out.

    Unfortunately the money for doing this isn’t available.

    This is why I favor spending only $2 billion/year on the ANSF training command and focusing the additional $1 billion/year on ANSF officer and NCO training only.

  9. The question still come back to who pays.

    I don’t disagree that ANSF need more training, funding and education.

  10. Yes that is the question. Karzai isn’t skilled at rounding up donations. He shoots his mouth off at foreign countries all of the time. The American press covers it when he shoots his mouth off at the US.

    In my view it comes down to Presidential Leadership.

    Obama needs to take Putin to a secluded retreat for a few days and explain to him that the Taliban and Al Qaeda hate Russia and threaten Russia more than the US. Unless Russia pays for part of the ANSF, the US congress won’t put up and Russia will be screwed. Russia will have the option of donating Russian equipment in lieu of cash, which will help sell it at home.

    Similar conversations are needed with many other countries. India has to put up.

    Japan, which currently gives $1 billion/year (their last pledge was $5 billion over 5 years) must be told that it has to increase its aid to $1.5 billion per year.

    And down the line.

    If the US shows leadership, it will happen. The US has not shown leadership.

    Given the global financial constraints, I would only increase aid to Afghanistan by $2 billion per year. That money can be found.

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